The queen of the Roy family’s household is restored to her throne in the final episode of the series. Subrogationand went out for blood. Marcia Roy (Hiam Abbass) returns after the death of her billionaire husband, Logan (Brian Cox); but a brave assistant complicates things even more.
Claws unfold in the “Honeymoon States,” where a major conflict takes place between Marcia, who has spent the last two seasons vying for Logan’s utmost respect and admiration, and her sidekick, Kerry (Zoe Winters). In Season 4, Kerry became one of the main fixtures of the roster with her dreaded ATN tie-down reel, bangs. to arrange the Internet ablazeand a wild comparison to Chuckles the Clown.
Kerry has become one of Logan’s closest allies, in a sense similar to Tom (Matthew MacFadyen). Now that his greatest defender is dead, Kerry has nowhere to go. The entire Roy family is against him. Marcia has crammed all her belongings from the Roy family home into a neat little bag and does anything but push Logan into the elevator to kick him out of his celebration of life.
“It felt really brutal,” Winters told me via Zoom. Forced to be kicked out of the Roy family, with no job, no boyfriend (or no mentor – Logan whatever to Kerry), and no family heirloom to her name, Kerry is completely lost. He can’t even get out as fast as he can; Kerry loses her chance for a graceful exit by dropping all her belongings on the floor.
After Logan Roy passed away, Winters spoke with The Daily Beast’s Obsessed about grieving behind closed doors, getting away with Marica, and how Marion Davies inspired this milestone in Kerry’s life.
During filming, was the confrontation with Marcia as brutal as it seemed?
Yes it was. The day after we witnessed this enormous, chaotic shock. That is all [this episode] additionally. It’s shutting down. Received a message from Marcia about respecting the family at the moment – they are in mourning and please respect that and they will send her stuff. She knows she has a short time to get into the house and get her belongings, and she tries to look for evidence, go up those stairs and find what she’s looking for. It is helpless and also in complete disrepair.
What goes through Kerry’s head when she catches that fleeting moment to defend her case to Roman (Kieran Culkin)?
Promises were given. Interviews were held. He’s looking for a place to land – he’s desperately looking for it because he has to land somewhere. What we see here is that she and Marcia have never been divorced, and in this case, Marcia has become the public face of grief. Not Kerry. We are dealing with someone who has lost identity and purpose and lost protection. At the same time, [she] cannot express it publicly. He is very free.
What was in those items that was so valuable to Kerry?
The accessories department on this show is incredible and they are very clear about what belongs to everyone. Everything that spills out of his bag makes sense. He is looking for jewelry, memorabilia or meaningful pieces of the moment. Or expensive pieces – things he’d given her while wooing her over the years.
You talked a little bit about having a past for Kerry. Can you elaborate on this a little more – where did it come from?
He’s estranged from his family, that’s a big part of it. Very ambitious. He has gone through many schools and has political aims and aspires to become a political commentator in some way. Maybe not on ATN! [Laughs] It really revolved around it. This is one of the reasons why he is so distant from his parents and addicted to appearing a certain way in this world. He may also be politically different from his parents and this has caused some erosion in relationships.
I’m not saying he looks at Logan as a father figure – I don’t think that’s part of the job. Talking about this scene and this experience, we talked about Marion Davies and her fallout. [William Randolph] Hearst is dead. He has the following sentence that Charlie Chaplin says he wrote in a letter to his second wife, and he talks about how what Hearst gave him meant something to him. [There was] this feeling of being seen and valued. Kerry thinks Logan is precious to her. I think what we’re seeing in this scene is that she’s struggling to understand if she has any value to him because she needs help. Maybe he has realized that in some ways he is not as valuable as he thought.
What do you think Kerry hopes for in a future with Logan?
Part of the success of the show is that there is no explanation in the post and it gives you only what you need. There’s a wave of anxiety around the characters: Who are their allies? Who is betraying them? Who can they trust and who is lying to them? The audience feels the same as not knowing everything. That’s why all these theories come up, because the writers are very careful not to hold the audience’s hand in any way.
I love how incomprehensible it is [Logan and Kerry’s] It was dynamic and so was their relationship. Are they together? isn’t it? Are they professional? Have you been mentoring? Was it romance? There are many different theories, and I really respect artistic integrity, but I also respect your choice to show clearly nothing, to let the audience have their own imagination and their own theories about it. So by doing this, I think they experience their own anxiety, fear and insecurity.
How hard was it to keep Logan’s death a secret?
It was very strange! I felt like I knew something my family didn’t. I’m a really good secret keeper, so I knew I could do it. But it made me worry.
But it turned out to be very satisfying. And I’m so glad that somehow it didn’t show up and the audience had this incredible experience. It is very rare to experience [that]. You know, people go to the movies and tell you about it. It was very exciting to have so many people sitting at the same time in the same evening. [the same time] and live this experience. It was really gratifying. I’m so glad because I think it was an incredibly artistic and fulfilling moment.
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