‘Bachelor in Paradise’ 2022 Finale Spoilers: ‘BIP’ Season 8 Couples Engaged

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It’s time, Bachelor Nation. The Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoilers about who gets engaged (and who breaks up) are here, and they reveal a messy season from start to finish.

Bachelor in Paradise is a spinoff of The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. The Bachelor franchise premiered on ABC in March 2002 with businessman Alex Michel as the first Bachelor. The show has since aired for 26 seasons and produced several spinoffs including The Bachelorette, Bachelor in Paradise, Bachelor Pad, The Bachelor Presents: Listen to Your Heart and The Bachelor Winter Games. Bachelor in Paradise premiered in August 2014 as a reality TV dating show featuring previous contestants from The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. The show starts with an uneven number of women and men from The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. Each week, there’s a rose ceremony where either the men or women give roses to the contestants they feel the strongest connection to. The contestants who don’t receive a rose are sent home.

The next week, the roles are reversed, and the gender that didn’t give out roses the previous week now has the job of choosing who to give a rose to and who to send home. Each week, more contestants from past seasons of The Bachelor and The Bachelorette are also join the show to create an uneven number between the women and men and force the contestants already there to either couple up with someone new or stay in their current relationship. Contestants are also given date cards at random to choose contestants they want to spend alone time with. Many new contestants join the show with a date card.

At the end of the season, the contestants are offered a chance to have an overnight date with no cameras or microphones (much like Fantasy Suites on The Bachelor and The Bachelorette.) After the overnight dates is the finale, where contestants either choose to break up or get engaged. Like The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, Bachelor in Paradise also has an “After the Final Rose” special, where contestants reunite to hash out drama and update viewers on their relationship.

Back to the Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoilers. So what happens on Bachelor in Paradise season 8 and who ends up with who? Read on for the Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoilers to find out who gets engaged and which couples make it to the finale. (For who’s still together from Bachelor in Paradise season 8, click here.)

Read on for the Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoilers including which BiP season 8 contestants end up together and what drama happens.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: All the contestants in the BiP season 8 cast

There are 43 contestants in the Bachelor in Paradise 2022 cast, which is a record number of contestants on any Bachelor in Paradise season, according to Reality Steve. See the full list of the the Bachelor and Bachelorette alums who arrived throughout BiP season 8 ahead:

• Salley Carson – The Bachelor season 26 (Clayton Echard)
• Rodney Mathews – The Bachelorette season 18 (Michelle Young)
• Aaron Clancy – The Bachelorette season 17 (Katie Thurston) & Bachelor in Paradise season 7
• James Bonsall – The Bachelorette season 17 (Katie Thurston) & Bachelor in Paradise season 7
• Danielle Maltby – The Bachelor season 21 (Nick Viall) & Bachelor in Paradise season 4
• Peter Izzo – The Bachelorette season 18 (Michelle Young)
• Sarah Hamrick – The Bachelor season 26 (Clayton Echard)
• Kate Gallivan – The Bachelor season 26 (Clayton Echard)
• Eliza Isichei – The Bachelor season 26 (Clayton Echard)
• Jessenia Cruz – The Bachelor season 25 (Matt James) & Bachelor in Paradise season 7
• Florence Morenhout – Bachelor in Paradise Australia seasons 1 & 2
• Tyler Norris – The Bachelorette season 19 (Gabby Winey & Rachel Recchia)
• Alex Bordyukov – The Bachelorette season 13 (Rachel Lindsay)
• Adam Todd – The Bachelorette Australia season 6 (Elly Miles & Becky Miles)
• Rick Leach – The Bachelorette season 18 (Michelle Young)
• Olu Onajide – The Bachelorette season 18 (Michelle Young)
• Hayen Markowitz – The Bachelorette season 19 (Gabby Winey & Rachel Recchia)
• Joey Young – The Bachelorette season 19 (Gabby Winey & Rachel Recchia)
• Justin Young – The Bachelorette season 19 (Gabby Winey & Rachel Recchia)
• Mara Agrait – The Bachelor season 26 (Clayton Echard)
• Ency Abedin – The Bachelor season 26 (Clayton Echard)
• Lyndsey Windham – The Bachelor season 26 (Clayton Echard)

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Kira ends up with Romeo after she’s eliminated

Kira Mengistu (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) was eliminated at the First Rose ceremony along with Hailey Malles and Hunter Haag (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) after they didn’t receive roses from any of the men. A day after the first Rose Ceremony, Kira returned to the beach and left together with Romeo Alexander (The Bachelorette season 18, Michelle Young), who gave his rose to Jill Chin (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard), but decided his feelings for Kira were stronger, according to Reality Steve.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Teddi quits after breaking up with Andrew

Teddi Wright (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) received a rose from Andrew Spencer (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston) at the first Rose Ceremony. However, after the Rose Ceremony, Teddi told Andrew that she didn’t feel that strong of a connection with him and self-eliminated, according to Reality Steve.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Sierra quits after Michael breaks up with her

Sierra Jackson (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) received a rose from Michael Allio (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston) at the first Rose Ceremony. However, after the rose ceremony, Michael broke up with Sierra, which led Sierra to self-eliminate. After Michael and Sierra broke up, Danielle Maltby (The Bachelor season 21, Nick Viall & Bachelor in Paradise season 4) arrived on Bachelor in Paradise season 8 and asked Michael on a date, according to Reality Steve.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Salley quits because of her issues with production

Salley Carson (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) arrived on Bachelor in Paradise season 8 after the first Rose Ceremony but self-eliminated soon after because of her issues with Bachelor in Paradise‘s production, according to Reality Steve. “Salley Carson (Clayton’s season) arrived and was barely on the beach before self-eliminating. What I’ve heard is that production did her dirty and she wanted no part of being there anymore, so she left. Details sketchy at this point in terms of what happened, but I’ll fill you in once I hear,” Reality Steve wrote in a blog post in September 2022.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Casey breaks his ankle and quits

Casey Woods (The Bachelorette season 18, Michelle Young) gave his rose to Brittany Galvin (The Bachelor season 25, Matt James) at the first Rose Ceremony. However, he self-eliminated after he broke his ankle before the second Rose Ceremony, according to Reality Steve.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Peter quits after his date with Brittany

Peter Izzo (The Bachelorette season 18, Michelle Young) arrived on Bachelor in Paradise season 8 after the second Rose Ceremony and asked Brittany Galvin (The Bachelor season 25, Matt James) on a date. The date didn’t go well and Peter self-eliminated, according to Reality Steve.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: There is a “Casa Amor” twist like Love Island

There was a twist similar to “Casa Amor” on Love Island after the second Rose Ceremony on Bachelor in Paradise season 8, according to Reality Steve. In Love Island, “Casa Amor” is a twist that occurs in the middle of the season, where the original group of men and the women are separated into two villas—the original villa and Casa Amor—where they date a new group of men and women and must decide if they want to stay with their original partners or couple up with someone new.

On Bachelor in Paradise season 8, the men stayed on the original beach in Mexico (where they dated five new Bachelor alums) while the women moved to a new beach (where they dated five new Bachelorette alums), according to Reality Steve, who reported that the twist lasted for one day. At the third Rose Ceremony, the original Bachelor in Paradise contestants decided if they wanted to stay with their original partners or couple up with someone new. See below for the contestants who arrived as part of the “Casa Amor” twist on Bachelor in Paradise season 8.

Bachelor in Paradise season 8 Casa Amor women

• Sarah Hamrick (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard)
• Kate Gallivan (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard)
• Eliza Isichei (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard)
• Jessenia Cruz (The Bachelor season 25, Matt James & Bachelor in Paradise season 7)
• Florence Moerenhout (Bachelor in Paradise Australia season 1 & 2)

Bachelor in Paradise season 8 Casa Amor men

• Tyler Norris (The Bachelorette season 19, Gabby Windey & Rachel Recchia)
• Alex Bordyukov (The Bachelorette season 12, Rachel Lindsay, Bachelor in Paradise Australia season 2, Bachelor in Paradise Canada season 1)
• Adam Todd (The Bachelorette Australia season 6)
• Rick Leach (The Bachelorette season 17, Michelle Young)
• Olu Onajide (The Bachelorette season 17, Michelle Young)

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Kate is a villain

Kate Gallivan (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) was the villain of Bachelor in Paradise season 8, according to Reality Steve. She arrived after the second Rose Ceremony as part of the Casa Amor twist. Jacob Rapini (The Bachelor season 19, Gabby Windey & Rachel Recchia) chose Kate over his previous partner, Jill Chin (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard), and Jill self-eliminated. Later, Kate chose Logan Palmer (The Bachelor season 19, Gabby Windey & Rachel Recchia), and Jacob was eliminated. “Kate is possibly next villain, as she seems to be causing quite the ruckus down there. Doesn’t mean she’s a horrible person and people need to start bad mouthing her on her IG, but I don’t think her edit is gonna be great and she’s rubbing some of the contestants the wrong way from everything I’m hearing,” Reality Steve wrote in a blog post in September 2022.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Olu & Rick are eliminated after “Casa Amor”

Rick Leach (The Bachelorette season 17, Michelle Young) and Olu Onajide (The Bachelorette season 17, Michelle Young) arrived as part of the “Casa Amor” twist on Bachelor in Paradise season 8. However, they were both eliminated when they didn’t form a connection with any of the women and didn’t make it back to the original beach, according to Reality Steve. Alex Bordyukov (The Bachelorette season 12, Rachel Lindsay) and Adam Todd (The Bachelorette Australia season 6) are also eliminated soon after.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Rodney breaks up with Lace for Eliza

Rodney Mathews (The Bachelorette season 18, Michelle Young) took Lace Morris (The Bachelor season 12, Ben Higgins & Bachelor in Paradise season 3) on a date when he arrived on Bachelor in Paradise season 8, which led Lace to give him her rose at the second Rose Ceremony. Rodney later broke up with Lace to date Eliza Isichei (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) who arrived as part of the “Casa Amor” twist, according to Reality Steve. 

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Justin comes back after “Casa Amor”

Justin Glaze (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston) was eliminated after the second Rose Ceremony when he didn’t receive a rose from any of the women. He came back after the “Casa Amor” twist because he was interested in Eliza Isichei (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard), according to Reality Steve. 

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Eliza, Rodney and Justin have a love triangle

Eliza Isichei (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) became involved in a love triangle with Rodney Mathews (The Bachelorette season 18, Michelle Young) and Justin Glaze (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston) when Justin came back to Bachelor in Paradise season 8 after Rodney gave Eliza his rose at the third Rose Ceremony. At the fourth Rose Ceremony, Eliza gave her rose to Rodney over Justin, but walked Justin out. The next morning, she broke up with Rodney and told him that she felt pressured to give him her rose and regretted it, which led them both to quit Bachelor in Paradise season 8. After Eliza and Rodney broke up, Eliza went on a plane to ask Justin to get back together. He rejects her and tells her he wants someone who’s all in on him.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Sarah quits because her grandmother died

Sarah Hamrick (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) arrived as part of the “Casa Amor” twist. However, Sarah self-eliminated before the third Rose Ceremony after she learned that her grandmother had died and she had to quit Bachelor in Paradise season 8.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Lyndsey quits after Kate doesn’t allow Logan to go on a date with her

Lyndsey Windham was one of the last three women to arrive on Bachelor in Paradise season 8 along with Mara Agrait and Ency Abedin (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard). Because there weren’t many single men still on the beach, Lyndsey asked Logan Palmer (The Bachelorette season 19, Gabby Windey & Rachel Recchia) on a date. But when Kate Gallivan (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard), who was coupled up with Logan, told him that he didn’t want him to go on the date, Lyndsey self-eliminated, according to Reality Steve, who referred to the moment as another reason Kate was the villain on Bachelor in Paradise season 8.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Andrew & Jessenia break up after Ency asks him on a date

Andrew Spencer (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston) and Jessenia Cruz (The Bachelor season 25, Matt James & Bachelor in Paradise season 7) broke up after Ency Abedin (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) arrived on Bachelor in Paradise season 8 and asked Andrew on a date, according to Reality Steve. When Andrew had to decide between Jessenia and Ency, he couldn’t do so, and so he self-eliminated.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Shanae, Florence and Mara have a love triangle with Joey and Justin

Shanae Ankney, Mara Agrait (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard), Florence Moerenhout (Bachelor in Paradise Australia season 1 & 2) were involved in a love triangle with twins Joey and Justin Young (The Bachelorette season 19, Gabby Windey & Rachel Recchia), according to Reality Steve. Mara and Florence were two of the three last women to arrive on Bachelor in Paradise season 8, while Justin and Joey were two of the last three men to arrive on Bachelor in Paradise.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Gabby & Rachel make a cameo

Season 19 Bachelorettes Gabby Windey and Rachel Recchia make a cameo on Bachelor in Paradise season 8. Reality Steve reported that Gabby and Rachel make a guest appearance toward the end of the season, where they tell Kate Gallivan (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) about how Logan Palmer (The Bachelorette season 19, Gabby Windey & Rachel Recchia) switched from Rachel to Gabby on their season. Logan was disqualifed in week six in fifth place on Gabby and Rachel’s Bachelorette season after he tested positive for COVID-19 Gabby and Rachel knew Kate from Clayton’s Bachelor season.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Genevieve & Aaron break up before the finale

Genevieve Parisi (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) and Aaron Clancy (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston & Bachelor in Paradise season 7) make it to the final six couples on Bachelor in Paradise season 8 but broke up before the finale, according to Reality Steve. Genevieve was one of the original contestants on Bachelor in Paradise season 8, while Aaron arrived after the first Rose Ceremony. Aaron broke up with Genevieve before “Fantasy Suites” because of how often she would try to leave if they got in a fight, according to Reality Steve

Genevieve and Aaron were also involved in drama on Clayton’s Bachelor season after Shanae Ankney, another contestant on Clayton’s Bachelor season, accused Genevieve of having sex with Aaron after she was eliminated on Clayton’s Bachelor season. “And then when you get eliminated, you go home and fuck Aaron from Katie [Thurston]’s season,” Shanae said on the “Women Tell All” special.

Genevieve denied the rumors. “This is mind-blowing, I met [Aaron] at a bar, I didn’t kiss him,” she said. Genevieve also claimed that Shanae was the one DMed Aaron. “He goes, ‘Is she really this bad?’ And sent me a screenshot of all of your hearts replying to his messages. He thinks you’re crazy, so stop,” she said. Genevieve also denied rumors she and Aaron had sex after the “Women Tell All” special. “The comment of me and Aaron… I mean, I can’t even begin to explain how ridiculous that is,” she told Entertainment Tonight. “I think I was more shocked than when Clayton asked me if I was an actress,” she told Us Weekly. “I saw Aaron at a bar and I posted a picture with him…I didn’t even kiss Aaron. And that’s why I was just, like, ‘What?’” She continued, “I just don’t even have words for that girl.”

Aaron, for his part, explained on the “Click Bait” podcast at the time that he and Genevieve met “randomly” at a bar but didn’t talk much then. “Genevieve and I met randomly one time at a bar. Clayton’s season hadn’t even aired yet, so I didn’t know who she was. She knew who I was from Paradise and came up to me to introduce herself. We hugged and that was pretty much the extent of it. I didn’t care to talk too much about The Bachelor with her and that was it,” he said.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Logan & Kate break up after Gabby & Rachel’s cameo

Logan Palmer (The Bachelorette season 19, Gabby Windey & Rachel Recchia) and Kate Gallivan (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) were one of the final six couples on Bachelor in Paradise season 8 but broke up before the finale, according to Reality Steve. Logan was one of the original contestants on Bachelor in Paradise season 8, while Kate arrived after the second Rose Ceremony as part of the “Casa Amor” twist.

According to Reality Steve, Logan and Kate’s breakup was in part due to Kate’s conversation with season 19 Bachelorettes Gabby Windey and Rachel Recchia, who make a cameo toward the end of Bachelor in Paradise season 8 and tell Kate about how Logan switched from Gabby to Rachel on their season. “Well, Kate and Logan inevitably end up breaking up in Paradise. Whatever the reasoning is I guess we’ll have to see it play out, but Gabby and Rachel BOTH were down in Paradise towards the end of filming and they told Kate about Logan and that he was indecisive and what not. So I’m guessing that played a role in their breakup? I just know they went down there and told her,” Reality Steve wrote in a blog post in September 2022.

Reality Steve also reported that Logan and Kate broke up after Logan offered Kate a rose at one of the last Rose Ceremonies and she said no. “Mentioned something about how he drives an orange Nissan and couldn’t afford a certain gym membership,” Reality Steve wrote.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Michael & Danielle leave together

Michael Allio (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston) and Danielle Maltby (The Bachelor season 21, Nick Viall & Bachelor in Paradise season 4) were one of the final six couples on Bachelor in Paradise season 8 and left together but didn’t get engaged. Michael was one of the original contestants on Bachelor in Paradise season 8, while Danielle arrived after the first Rose Ceremony.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Brittany & Tyler leave together but break up

Brittany Galvin (The Bachelor season 25, Matt James) and Tyler Norris (The Bachelorette season 19, Gabby Windey & Rachel Recchia) were one of the final six couples on Bachelor in Paradise season 8 and left together but didn’t get engaged. Brittany was one of the original contestants on Bachelor in Paradise season 8, while Tyler arrived after the second Rose Ceremony as part of the “Casa Amor” twist. Reality Steve reported in 2022 that Brittany and Tyler broke up after they left Bachelor in Paradise season 8 together.

Who gets engaged on Bachelor in Paradise 2022? Read on for the BiP season 8 couples who ended up together and got engaged.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Brandon & Serene get engaged & are still together

Brandon Jones (The Bachelorette season 18, Michelle Young) and Serene Russell (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) are one of two couples who get engaged in the Bachelor in Paradise season 8 finale. Brandon and Serene are both original contestants on Bachelor in Paradise season 8. During the Bachelor in Paradise season 8 finale, host Jesse Palmer told Brandon and Serene he was ordained and asked if they wanted to get married then and there. The finale ended with a cliffhanger, however, at the “After the Final Rose” special Brandon and Serene revealed that they didn’t get married but were still together and engaged.

For their engagement, it’s almost certain that the ring was designed by Neil Lane, a celebrity jeweler, who has created engagement rings for The Bachelor, The Bachelorette and Bachelor in Paradise since 2008. In a 2016 interview with Entertainment Weekly, former host Chris Harrison revealed that Bachelor Nation couples have to stay together for a certain amount of time, otherwise they have to return the free engagement ring to Neil Lane. “There’s some rule, after a certain number of years, you get to keep it anyway,” he said. “But after months… it goes back.” Lane told StyleCaster in 2016 that he doesn’t know where the rings go, but that he designs them with the hope that the couple to stays together. “I make rings hoping that people stay together forever, but after they get the ring, I don’t have a say in it, and what happens after that, I don’t know,” he said. “Where the ring goes, I have to say, I don’t really know. I just say it goes to ring heaven.”

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 Spoiler: Johnny & Victoria get engaged but break up

Johnny DePhillipo (The Bachelorette season 19, Gabby Windey & Rachel Recchia) and Victoria Fuller (The Bachelor season 24, Peter Weber) are one of two couples who get engaged in the Bachelor in Paradise season 8 finale. Johnny and Victoria are both original contestants on Bachelor in Paradise season 8. Victoria also confirmed that she and Johnny ended up together when she accidentally posted an Instagram Story in August 2022 of her and Johnny at the grocery store.

For their engagement, it’s almost certain that the ring was designed by Neil Lane, a celebrity jeweler, who has created engagement rings for The Bachelor, The Bachelorette and Bachelor in Paradise since 2008. In a 2016 interview with Entertainment Weekly, former host Chris Harrison revealed that Bachelor Nation couples have to stay together for a certain amount of time, otherwise they have to return the free engagement ring to Neil Lane. “There’s some rule, after a certain number of years, you get to keep it anyway,” he said. “But after months… it goes back.” Lane told StyleCaster in 2016 that he doesn’t know where the rings go, but that he designs them with the hope that the couple to stays together. “I make rings hoping that people stay together forever, but after they get the ring, I don’t have a say in it, and what happens after that, I don’t know,” he said. “Where the ring goes, I have to say, I don’t really know. I just say it goes to ring heaven.”

Reality Steve also confirmed on his podcast in October 2022 that Johnny and Victoria broke up around early September 2022. The report came after rumors Victoria cheated on Johnny with Greg Grippo, a contestant on The Bachelorette season 17 with Katie Thurston. Reality Steve reported at the time that he also heard the cheating rumors from several sources, but couldn’t confirm if they were true. “I’m not saying it’s not true, I’m just saying I don’t know,” he said.

The rumors also came after a TikTok user named Anna posted a video of what looked like Victoria and Greg together in Rome, Italy. “When you are at the Colosseum [and] see Greg Grippo & Victoria F from bachelor nation,” Anna wrote on the video. The video was posted around the time Johnny posted an Instagram Story that he was in Miami, Florida. “Unwell,” he wrote on a photo of him drinking. YouTube creator Dave Neal also shared a photo on his channel at time of what fans believed to be Victoria and Greg walking together in Rome. Reality Steve addressed the picture in his podcast. “As for the picture in Italy, I’m not convinced that that is Victoria, I’m not convinced that is Greg, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t,” he said. ” … If we find out that wasn’t Greg and Victoria in Italy, that doesn’t mean the first two things aren’t true, which are, Victoria and Johnny are done, and Victoria and Greg have something going on. Talking, dating, hooking up, whatever. Did she cheat on Johnny with Greg? I don’t know.” He continued, “We’re going to find out what happens at that taping, I’m sure. The most solid thing you can run with is Victoria and Johnny are broken up. And I think there’s a lot of signs that point to Victoria and Greg have something going on.” Reality Steve confirmed Victoria and Greg are dating on October 25, 2022, when he posted a video of them at the Trevi Fountain in Rome. The video showed Victoria and Greg walking side by side down a cobblestone street in Rome as they passed by the Trevi Fountain.

What are the Bachelor in Paradise 2022 finale spoilers?

Read on for the Bachelor in Paradise 2022 finale spoilers and what happens on the “After the Final Rose” special for BiP season 8.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Victoria & Johnny broke up after Johnny called her a “stupid cunt” and Victoria threw a wine glass at him

During the “After the Final Rose special,” Johnny DePhillipo (The Bachelorette season 19, Gabby Windey & Rachel Recchia) and Victoria Fuller (The Bachelor season 24, Peter Weber) revealed that they were in couples counseling for three weeks after the Bachelor in Paradise season 8 finale, according to Reality Steve. Victoria revealed that she broke up with Johnny after he called her a “stupid cunt” and told her what good of a woman she was if she didn’t cook or clean. Johnny confirmed he said those things to Victoria and apologized for calling her a “stupid cunt.” He also accused Victoria of throwing a wine glass at him and telling him she was out of his league after telling her didn’t want to air their dirty laundry on TV.

Tyler Norris (The Bachelorette season 19, Gabby Windey & Rachel Recchia) also claimed he heard from a reporter that Victoria cheated on Johnny at a party in Los Angeles and told people at the party she was single, according to Reality Steve. Victoria went off on Tyler and yelled at him to be quiet and that her breakup with Johnny didn’t involve him.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Victoria & Greg are dating after her breakup with Johnny

Victoria Fuller (The Bachelor season 24, Peter Weber) and Greg Grippo (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston) are dating after her breakup with Johnny DePhillipo (The Bachelorette season 19, Gabby Windey & Rachel Recchia), according to Reality Steve. During the “After the Final Rose” special for Bachelor in Paradise season 8, Victoria and Johnny were brought out first. Greg was then brought out to join them. Then Victoria and Greg were brought out by themselves.

Victoria and Greg revealed they were talking before Bachelor in Paradise season 8 but weren’t serious, according to Reality Steve. Greg didn’t go on Bachelor in Paradise because he was dating his ex-girlfriend at the time, Clemence Lopez. Victoria also claimed she told Johnny she was talking to Greg before Bachelor in Paradise. When Johnny saw Victoria texting Greg, she would tell him they were just friends. Johnny learned of Victoria and Greg dating after their breakup from social media when he saw the photos and videos of them in Italy. Victoria and Greg also got matching arm tattoos in Italy, which said “hot” in Italian, according to Reality Steve.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Gabby & Rachel were at the “After the Final Rose” special

Season 19 Bachelorettes Gabby Windey and Rachel Recchia were at the “After the Final Rose” special for Bachelor in Paradise season 8, but never went on stage, according to Reality Steve. Bachelor in Paradise season 7 couples Joe Amabile and Serena Pitt, and Kenny Brasch and Mari Pepin were also there.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Teddi was not at the reunion

Teddi Wright (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) was not at the Bachelor in Paradise season 8 “After the Final Rose” special, according to Reality Steve. Andrew Spencer (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston) revealed during the reunion that his experience on Bachelor in Paradise changed after Teddi self-eliminated, which is why he broke up with both Jessenia Cruz (The Bachelor season 25, Matt James & Bachelor in Paradise season 7) broke up after Ency Abedin (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) before the finale.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Brittany and Tyler broke up because Tyler became too attached

Brittany Galvin (The Bachelor season 25, Matt James) and Tyler Norris (The Bachelorette season 19) broke up after leaving Bachelor in Paradise season 8 together because Tyler became too attached, according to Reality Steve. Brittany and Tyler revealed during the “After the Final Rose” special that they met each other’s families after leaving Bachelor in Paradise season 8 together and Tyler invited Brittany to a party in Los Angeles. Brittany told him she couldn’t because she didn’t have the money to fly to Los Angeles and Tyler offered to pay for her, but she declined. Days later, she bought tickets to London and Italy for herself and broke up with Tyler on FaceTime in Italy. Brittany explained on “After the Final Rose” that she broke up with Tyler because their goals didn’t line up and she wanted him to be his own person but felt like his life was revolving around her.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Michael & Danielle are still together

Michael Allio (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston) and Danielle Maltby (The Bachelor season 21 and Bachelor in Paradise season 4) are still together after leaving Bachelor in Paradise season 8 together, according to Reality Steve. They confirmed their relationship at the “After the Final Rose” special. Reality Steve also reported that Danielle is moving to Ohio, where Michael lives, to be closer to him, though they’re not moving in together. “They are taking things slow,” Reality Steve wrote.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Brandon & Serene are still together

Brandon Jones (The Bachelorette season 18, Michelle Young) and Serene Russell (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) are still together and engaged, according to Reality Steve. They confirmed their relationship at the “After the Final Rose” special. Brandon and Serene were also given a trip to Hawaii. ABC spoiled that Brandon and Serene were still together when it posted a photo of them together at the “After the Final Rose” special.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Romeo & Kira are still together

Romeo Alexander (The Bachelorette season 18, Michelle Young) and Kira Mengistu (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) are still together after leaving Bachelor in Paradise season 8, together, according to Reality Steve. They confirmed their relationship at the “After the Final Rose” special.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Jacob & Jill get back together

Jill Chin (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) and Jacob Rapini (The Bachelorette season 19, Gabby Windey and Rachel Recchia) got back together at the “After the Final Rose” special after Jacob asked Jill if she wanted to date again and she told him yes.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Michael & Sierra argue

Michael Allio (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston) and Sierra Jackson (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) had an argument on the Bachelor in Paradise season 8 “After the Final Rose” special after Sierra accused Michael of not being straightforward with her and not telling her he didn’t like her instead of claiming he wasn’t ready on Bachelor in Paradise season 8 but dating Danielle Maltby (The Bachelor season 21 and Bachelor in Paradise season 4) soon after Sierra self-eliminated. She also claimed that Michael kissed her three times after they broke up, which is why she thought they could get back together. Michael denied kissing her.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Genevieve and Aaron are not back together

Genevieve Parisi (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) and Aaron Clancy (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston) are not back together and are still broken up, according to Reality Steve. Though reality Steve reported they’re on good terms now.

Reality Steve also reported in November 2022 that Aaron had a new girlfriend after his breakup with Genevieve. The woman, who Reality Steve didn’t identify because she’s not in Bachelor Nation, confirmed the relationship on her Instagram Stories at the time by posting a vase of flowers she received from Aaron for her birthday and tagging him. She also posted a series of photos from her birthday part with Aaron and other Bachelor in Paradise season 8 contestants including Logan Palmer and Jacob Rapini. One of the photos also showed Aaron and the woman kissing. Reality Steve also reported that the woman knew Aaron before Bachelor in Paradise season 8 given a photo she posted with him in her Instagram highlights around the time Aaron would have finished filming Bachelor in Paradise. She also posted a photo with him in Tulum, Mexico, from January 2022, six months before Bachelor in Paradise season 8 started filming in June 2022. Reality Steve theorized that Aaron’s relationship with the woman explained his behavior with Genevieve toward the end of their relationship.

“Aaron is no different than a lot of the guys in this franchise. Plenty of them go on the main show and BIP with women back home that are basically put on ‘hold’  or they have in the back of their minds if things don’t work out,” Reality Steve wrote. “And knowing that he was with her last summer, then right after filming, and is currently with her, I don’t think it’s far fetched that Aaron probably was talking/hooking up with her pre-BIP filming. How they defined their relationship is beyond me. And to me, my opinion is that I think it explains a lot of his behavior with Genevieve that we’re seeing play out on the episodes now. It just seems like he was using Genevieve for roses, went down to BIP for fun, hang with James, gain some followers, be on TV, and just was never interested in being serious with Genevieve. Kind of explains hit hot and cold behavior with her.” He continued, “One minute he’s telling her he’s not just falling in love with her, but that he IS in love with her. Then a day later he’s fighting with her again. It just screams to me he knew he had someone back home and was just doing whatever he could to stay on the beach as long as he could.”

After Reality Steve’s post about Aaron’s girlfriend, he reported that another woman contacted him claiming that she was also dating Aaron before Bachelor in Paradise season 8. The second woman also told Reality Steve that she contacted the first woman and learned they were both dating Aaron at the same time, though Reality Steve reported that the first woman is still with Aaron. The second woman claimed that she and Aaron started dating in September 2021, around the time Bachelor in Paradise season 7 (Aaron’s first season) was airing. They dated from September to November 2021 before breaking up. They got back together in January 2022 and started dating again more seriously until May 2022, around the time Aaron left to film Bachelor in Paradise season 8. The second woman also revealed that she knew of the first woman, but had been told by Aaron that the first woman was just a friend. (The second woman claimed that Aaron was telling the first woman the same thing about her.) The women learned Aaron was dating them both while he was filing Bachelor in Paradise season 8. The second woman also shared direct messages between her and the first woman when they learned about Aaron. See the texts here.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Genevieve and Shanae were given a trip to Niagra Falls

Genevieve Parisi and Shanae Ankney (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) were brought on stage to talk about their new friendship on Bachelor in Paradise season 8. They were also given a trip to Niagra Falls by ABC, which is where their two-on-one was on their Bachelor season.

Bachelor in Paradise 2022 spoiler: Justin & Eliza are not back together after her breakup with Rodney

Justin Glaze (The Bachelorette season 17, Katie Thurston) and Eliza Isichei (The Bachelor season 26, Clayton Echard) are not back together after her breakup with Rodney Matthews (The Bachelorette, Michelle Young.) During the “After the Final Rose” special, Justin claimed that, after Eliza left Baltimore, Maryland, where she flew to see him, the two planned to meet in Los Angeles. He claimed the two talked for hours off camera while they were in Baltimore and told her he didn’t want to get back together, but they could still see each other when he was in Los Angeles. Justin accused Eliza of ghosting him and claimed he didn’t contact him until 11 at night when he was in Los Angeles.

Where was Bachelor in Paradise 2022 filmed? Since season 2, Bachelor in Paradise has been filmed at the Playa Escondida Resort in Sayulita, a town in Vallarta-Nayarit, Mexico. (Season 1 was filmed at the Casa Palapa resort in Tulum, Quintana Roo, Mexico.) According to the hotel’s website, Playa Escondida is a secluded, beachfront resort surrounded by hills, a 350-foot coastline and covered with jungle. The resort is located 40 minutes from the Puerto Vallarta International Airport on the Pacific Coast of Nayarit, known as Riviera Nayarit, and is one mile from the town of Sayulita.

The resort offers horseback riding on the beach, yoga, surfing lessons, paddle boarding, whale and dolphin watching, hiking and bike trails, and golf. The hotel also has a spa that offers hot stone therapy, deep tissue massages, four hand massages and facials. The resort also has its own restaurant, which serves dishes like shrimp omelettes (served with local mountain coffee), enchiladas de pollo, mar y tierra (fresh baked lobster with a Sonoran beef filet), coquilles de jaques (giant seared scallops served on half shells with a buerre blanc saffron sauce), scampi (made with giant Mazatlan shrimp and a paprika butter), as well as vegan and vegetarian specialties.

The private beach includes complimentary boogie boards, hidden coves and a thatched beach bar (the same one Wells Adams bartends at on Bachelor in Paradise) that serves tropical fruit cocktails, smoothies and ice-cold beers. The resort also includes several pools, including an infinity edge pool and waterfalls, as well as multiple hillside jacuzzis. Guests can also practice yoga on the yoga platform, which is shaded by a thatched roof and is made of natural stone.

The rooms at the Playa Escondita Resort range from $150 per night to $600 per night, so they’re not cheap. Each room comes with either one or two beds, and can fit one to four people. Prospective guests can also search for rooms that include a jacuzzi, A/C, gold cart or kitchen. Visit playa-escondida.com to book your stay at the Playa Escondida Resort.

Who is the Bachelor in Paradise 2022 host? The Bachelor in Paradise season 8 host is Jesse Palmer, who was the season 5 Bachelor in 2004 and was the youngest Bachelor in Bachelor Nation history at 24 years old. Jesse hosted his first Bachelor franchise show in 2022 with The Bachelor season 26 with Clayton Echard. During The Bachelor season 5 finale, Jesse gave his Final Rose to Jessica Bowlin, but didn’t propose to her. Jesse and Jessica continued to date, but ended their relationship a few weeks after the finale of their Bachelor season aired. In June 2020, Jesse and his girlfriend, Emely Fardo, married in an intimate wedding in New York City. Jesse told Us Weekly in November 2021 that he and Emely planned to marry in Provence, France, before the current health crisis cancelled their wedding date. “We had originally planned a wedding in Provence, France, for summer 2020, which was postponed until summer of 2021 due to the pandemic, but we didn’t want to wait any longer,” he said at the time. “So, we had a small, private and intimate ceremony with close friends who lived in New York City.”

Jesse graduated from the University of Florida in Gainesville, Florida, where he played football for the Florida Gators, in 2001 with a bachelor’s of arts degree in political science and a bachelor’s of science degree in marketing. After graduation, Jesse was drafted by the National Football League to play for the New York Giants. He played with the team for four seasons from 2001 to 2005 as a quarterback. After the New York Giants, Jesse was drafted by the Canadian Football League to play for the Montreal Alouettes. He played with the team until 2005 when he was signed by the San Francisco 49ers. He then resigned with the Montreal Alouettes in 2006 before he retired from football in 2007 to pursue a broadcasting career. Since his broadcasting career started, Jesse has worked with networks like Fox, NFL Network, ESPN, ABC and SEC Network. He’s also guest starred on Law & Order: Special Victims Unit and made guest appearances on shows like Recipe to Riches and Good Morning America, and hosted the Food Network’s Spring Baking Championship and Holiday Baking Championship.

Jesse was announced as The Bachelor season 26 host in September 2021. “For more than 20 years, The Bachelor has brought the world dozens of unforgettable love stories, including at one time, my own,” he said at the time. “Falling in love is one of life’s greatest gifts, and I am humbled by the opportunity to return to the show as host this season to offer the newest Bachelor advice gained from firsthand experience and I am grateful to play a small part in his journey.” The announcement came after Chris Harrison, the former host of Bachelor Nation, confirmed in June 2021 that he had retired as the franchise’s host after 19 years. “I’ve had a truly incredible run as host of The Bachelor franchise and now I’m excited to start a new chapter,” he wrote in an Instagram post at the time. “I’m so grateful to Bachelor Nation for all of the memories we’ve made together. While my two-decade journey is wrapping up, the friendships I’ve made will last a lifetime.”

Deadline reported at the time that Chris received a mid-range, eight-figure settlement as part of exit plan with ABC, the network that airs the Bachelor franchise, and Warner Bros. Television, the company that produces the Bachelor shows. The magazine also reported that Harrison’s settlement included a nondisclosure agreement. Chris’ decision to retire as Bachelor Nation’s host came after he was slammed for his response to season 25 Bachelor contestant Rachael Kirkconnell’s racism scandal in February 2021. Rachael, the winner of Matt James’ season, faced backlash at the time when photos resurfaced of her at an Old South Antebellum-themed party at Georgia College in 2018. Before the pictures went viral, Rachael was already under controversy after her former high school classmate accused her on TikTok of bullying her and other students for dating Black men. Other TikTok users then exposed Rachael for liking social media photos of her friends in culturally insensitive costumes and with Confederate flags.

Chris came under controversy after he was interviewed about the scandal by season 13 Bachelorette Rachel Lindsay on Extra. During the interview, Chris asked fans to give Rachael “grace” and explained that he didn’t find the Antebellum party photos offensive because they just looked like pictures a college student takes at a party. Harrison also questioned whether the photos would be considered racially insensitive in 2018 when they were taken. After the interview, many fans slammed Harrison and accused him of excusing Rachael’s behavior.

ABC confirmed in March 2021 that Chris wouldn’t host season 17 of The Bachelorette and would be replaced by Tayshia and Kaitlyn. “Chris Harrison will not be hosting the next season of The Bachelorette,” ABC said in a statement at the time. “We support Chris in the work that he is committed to doing. In his absence, former Bachelorettes Tayshia Adams and Kaitlyn Bristowe will support the new Bachelorette through next season. As we continue the dialogue around achieving greater equity and inclusion within The Bachelor franchise, we are dedicated to improving the BIPOC representation of our crew, including among the executive producer ranks. These are important steps in effecting fundamental change so that our franchise is a celebration of love that is reflective of our world.” He officially retired as the Bachelor Nation’s host in June 2021.

Who is the Bachelor in Paradise bartender? The Bachelor in Paradise season 8 bartender is Wells Adams, who was a contestant on The Bachelorette season 12 with JoJo Fletcher and Bachelor in Paradise season 3. Wells has been the bartender on Bachelor in Paradise since season 4. Wells was also a guest host for Bachelor in Paradise in season 7 after ABC fired Chris Harrison as the host of the Bachelor franchise following his controversial comments about The Bachelor season 25 contestant Rachael Kirkconnell’s racism scandal in February 2021. Bachelor in Paradise season 7 featured several celebrity guest hosts including David Spade, Lance Bass, Lil Jon and Tituss Burgess. “I’m not really qualified to be a bartender, and like, I’m okay at that and I’m not qualified to give people advice, I’m not a therapist, but I was a radio host for 15 years, so it was the only thing I was qualified to go do,” Wells told ABC 7 Chicago in 2021. He continued, “If I’m being honest, I was kind of [hosting] that the entire season. Let’s be fair, these big shot Hollywood-types would come in with their A/C trailers and say a couple of things and then I’d be up at 4:30 in the morning hosting the rose ceremony. I was glad I finally got my shot in there!”

In August 2022, Wells married actress Sarah Hyland after five years of dating. They got engaged in July 2019 and were set to marry on August 8, 2020, but had to postpone their wedding due to the COVID-19 pandemic. In an interview on Jimmy Kimmel Live! in 2019, Sarah revealed that she met Wells on Twitter. “Have you seen those memes of ‘Slide into the DMs?’ That. He slid into my DMs,” Sarah said. “I was following him. We had tweeted each other because I thought he was funny and he was a fan of the show. I saw him as the bartender and I was like, ‘That’s really cute.’” She continued, “I was single, obviously, and was like, ‘This is really awesome. You’re being very forward and it’s sexy and not aggressive but very confident and sexy,’ and I liked that.” After some messages back and forth, Wells asked Sarah on a date. “‘Next time I’m in LA, I’m taking you out for drinks and tacos.’” he messaged. Sarah continued, “I love tacos. He loves tacos so that was his thing. Like, ‘I love tacos, let’s see if she loves tacos.’ We both love tacos! We have an obsession with tacos. Tacos and tequila, that’s our thing.”

In an interview with Cosmopolitan in 2020, Sarah revealed when she knew Wells was The One. Sarah explained that, a few days after she and Wells had the first real date at an Emmys party in 2017, she underwent her second kidney transplant. Wells flew from Nashville to Los Angeles to see Sarah on the weekends of her recovery process, where he also met her parents. A month into their relationship, they told each other they were falling in love. “I asked him when he was going to ask me to be his girlfriend,” she said. “I’m impatient.” She continued, “We were talking about what kinds of weddings we wanted four days after we made things official. I hate that typical cliché of ‘when you know, you know,’ but it’s so fucking true. At least it was for me.”

Who is the next Bachelor for 2023 after Bachelor in Paradise season 8 ends? The season 27 Bachelor is Zach Shallcross, a contestant on The Bachelorette season 19 with Gabby Windey and Rachel Recchia. Zach was Rachel’s contestant and self-eliminated in the final three. He was announced as the season 27 Bachelor at The Bachelorette season 19 “After the Final Rose” special in September 2022. The Bachelor season 27 premieres on January 23, 2023.

“As we know plans can always change last minute, and it won’t be “official” until next Tuesday on the ATFR, but I feel confident in reporting that the next Bachelor is going to be Zach Shallcross,” Reality Steve tweeted in September 2022 before Zach’s announcement. Reality Steve also wrote in a blog post before his confirmation about how Zach was the only contestant from The Bachelorette season 19 that he could see being the season 27 Bachelor after another frontrunner turned the role down. “It means we’re moving on to somebody else. I don’t know who from this season outside of maybe Zach,” Reality Steve wrote in a blog post in September 2022. Variety also reported in September 2022 that Zach was ABC’s top choice to become the next Bachelor, with two sources confirming the news. Zach will be announced as the season 27 Bachelor at The Bachelorette season 19 finale on September 20, 2022. Reality Steve also tweeted a video at the time of Zach filming his introduction for The Bachelor. “But from what I’ve been told, it’s going to be Zach. And here is footage I was sent today from this past Saturday of Zach filming his intro video in Austin,” he tweeted. Page Six also reported in September 2022 that Zach was a frontrunner to become the next Bachelor. “He’s been a frontrunner for a while,” the insider said at the time. “There’s no denying that the audience loves him.”

Reality Steve reported in September 2022 that filming for The Bachelor season 27 started on September 26, 2022, with some of Zach’s contestants already in Los Angeles. He confirmed that two women on Zach’s season are: Davia Bunch, a 26-year-old digital marketing manager from Charleston, South Carolina, and Cat Wong, a 27-year-old model from New York, New York. Davia graduated the University of South Carolina and was the Miss South Carolina in 2018 in the Miss America pageant. She competed with Cat. Davia’s mother died in 2013 of leukemia when she was in high school and her father remarried that year. According to Reality Steve, she then moved to Russia on a dance scholarship, where she struggled with an eating disorder, before coming back to the United States, entering pageants and winning the title of Miss South Carolina. Car also attended the University of South Carolina at the same time as Davia and competed against her for the title of Miss South Carolina in 2018.

But back to The Bachelor. So…who is season 27 Bachelor Zach Shallcross? Zach is a 25-year-old tech executive from Anaheim Hills, California, but lives in Austin, Texas. He was a contestant on The Bachelorette season 19 with Gabby Winey and Rachel Recchia, where he was Rachel’s contestant and self-eliminated in third place. His Instagram handle is @zachshall.

According to his bio on ABC’s website, Zach describes himself as an “old-fashioned romantic” who loves three things in his life: his mom, his dogs and football. Read Zach’s Bachelorette 2022 biography and fun facts ahead:

“Zach is an old-fashioned romantic. He loves his mama, his dogs and football but promises he has more love to go around! He’s charismatic, personable and has a huge heart that he is so ready to share forever with the right woman. Zach’s perfect woman is compassionate, kind and ready for romance because Zach is excited to lay it on thick. He loves to plan thoughtful surprises, and nothing makes him happier than seeing the look of excitement on his partner’s face when his meaningful gifts are appreciated. Zach is serious about finding a love that will lead to marriage, so whatever grand romantic gesture it takes for him to get there, he’s ready to go!

Fun Facts:
– Zach would love to be Spiderman for a day.
– Zach doesn’t like breakfast. Eggs don’t agree with him.
– Zach loves beach volleyball and is a master of the ‘Top Gun’ high-five.”

Zach listed his job on The Bachelorette as “Tech Executive.” According to his Linkedin, Zach works as a Senior Cloud Technology Account Executive at Oracle, where he’s worked for three years. He was promoted to his current position September 2021 and has also held roles like Cloud Technology Account Executive and Cloud Technology Consultant. He’s also worked as a Supervisor at the California Mid-State Fair in Paso Robles, California, and a Sales Operation Assistant at Gavel Group in Lake Forest, California. He graduated from California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo in 2019 with a bachelor’s degree in Business Administration with a concentration in Marketing. Zach played Collegiate Division 1 football for Cal Poly for five years.

“My role consists of strategically helping business in Houston enhance, extend, and leverage their current software, platform, and infrastructure while educating them on what Oracle’s portfolio has to offer,” Zach’s Linkedin bio reads.

Before Zach was confirmed as the season 27 Bachelor, Reality Steve reported on his podcast in September 2022 that Nate Mitchell, a contestant on The Bachelorette season 19 with Gabby Windey and Rachel Recchia, was offered the role but declined. “In regards to the Bachelor, obviously we’re about three weeks away from any announcement being made, I’m assuming it’s going to be made on the After the Final Rose, if not, within a day or two of that on GMA like they usually do. But after poking around a little bit, asking around, what I can tell you is: I don’t know who the Bachelor’s going to be, but you can cross Nate off the list. I have heard it is not him,” Reality Steve said. “I usually can’t get any details to stuff like that. I have heard, I have no idea if it’s true or not, but I have heard he rejected it, he doesn’t want to do it.” A source also told E! News in August 2022 that Nate was the frontrunner to become the next Bachelor.

The reports also came after Nate was photographed holding hands with a woman at a grocery store in Chicago, Illinois, in August 2022, weeks after he cried over his breakup with Gabby on The Bachelorette season 19 “Men Tell All” special. “Spotted Nate and another girl in Chicago today,” an anonymous source sent to the Instagram account @bachelorettewindmill along with a photo. “They were both holding hands so could be dating?”

WARNING: SPOILER. Other season 19 Bachelorette contestants not in the running to be the Bachelor 2023 were: Tyler Norris (who ended up with season 25 Bachelor contestant Brittany Galvin on Bachelor in Paradise season 8) and Johnny DePhilippo (who got engaged to season 24 Bachelor contestant Victoria Fuller on Bachelor in Paradise season 8). Erich Schwer, who got engaged to Gabby in The Bachelorette season 19 finale, and Tino Franco, who got engaged to Rachel, also weren’t in the running to be the Bachelor 2023. Reality Steve also didn’t believe that Logan Palmer, Ethan Kang, Spencer Swies, Aven Jones or Jason Alabaster from The Bachelorette season 19 would be the next Bachelor. According to Reality Steve, the one contestant from Gabby and Rachel’s Bachelorette season he did believe had a chance was Zach. “It means we’re moving on to somebody else. I don’t know who from this season outside of maybe Zach. I don’t see it being Aven. I don’t see it being Logan. I don’t see it being Ethan. I don’t see it being Spencer. I don’t see it being Jason,” Reality Steve said. 

Other Bachelor Nation alums who weren’t in the running to be the next Bachelor were The Bachelorette season 17 contestant Michael Allio (who ended up with season 21 Bachelor contestant Danielle Maltby on Bachelor in Paradise season 8) and The Bachelorette season 18 contestant Brandon Jones (who ended up with season 26 Bachelor contestant Serene Russell on Bachelor in Paradise season 8.)

While Nate wasn’t the Bachelor 2023, Gabby told Entertainment Tonight in August 2022 that he was her number-one choice as the next lead. “Nate. 100 percent Nate, Nate, Nate!” she said. “He knows how to treat women. He’s so smart, he’s old, he has a great job, he spends his time reading—not reading social media, reading actual books. He has a daughter, so he knows what it’s like to have responsibility. He’s a real, true definition of a man.”

Rachel told Entertainment Tonight that her choices for the next Bachelor were Nate and Tyler. “From Gabby’s side I would say Nate, [he’s] incredible, and from my side, maybe Tyler. Who knows?” Rachel said. “They really couldn’t go wrong.” Mario Vassall, another contestant from The Bachelorette season 19, agreed with Rachel’s picks. “Nate, his name comes to mind… Nate is a fun, standup guy,” he said. “… I’m a big fan of Tyler Norris. We saw his breakup with Rachel. That was tough to watch. [I’m a] big fan of him, his character. He wears his heart of his sleeve. I wouldn’t be mad if he took that position.” Mario also confirmed that he was open to becoming the next Bachelor in an interview with E! News. “I would say that I am open to the conversation,” he said.”Ad we’d go from there.”

Tyler, for his part, confirmed to Entertainment Tonight that he wasn’t interested in becoming the season 27 Bachelor but would root for Nate if he became the next lead. “I couldn’t even imagine dating two women at the same time, let alone 30-something women, but then again, you can’t take anything out of the card,” he said. “My man, Nate, he’s the sweetest, most genuine guy. I would love to see him. He brings flair too… My man would do a great job.” Tyler also told E! News about his concerns over becoming the next Bachelor. “I would definitely say that it’s very hard to navigate,” Tyler said. “With 30-something women there, it would definitely be a tough job to have, without hurting somebody at the end of the day. [But] if it gets me a stop closer to ultimately finding love then absolutely I would do it.”

Host Jesse Palmer also voted for Nate. “Nate is a standup guy. He’s an amazing person. He’s mature, he has an incredible emotional maturity, he’s vulnerable, he respects women, and he’s a great dad,” Jesse said. “I there’s there’s very few negative things I can say about Nate.” Jesse also had another choice for the next lead. “Are we still saying Pete Davidson? Is that still a choice?” Jesse said. “… I wanna ride that train. Wanna talk about a wild Bachelor season? That would probably be it. We might have to change some of our parameters.”

Gabby and Rachel also voiced their support for two Bachelors like how there were two Bachelorettes on season 19. “We loved each other for it, and loved having one another by one another’s side,” Gabby said of her relationship with Rachel. “I don’t know if men would feel the same, it depends on their relationship, but I think there’s a lot of good to come out of our season.” Rachel added, “I think ultimately if the Bachelors supported each other and loved each other to the extent that Gabby and I do, it could be incredible as well, but they would definitely have to be on the same level as us. Lots to live up to, of course!”

Mario, however, was against the idea and told Entertainment Tonight that ABC should “absolutely not” have two Bachelors. Tyler also agreed with him. “I think watching back the two Bachelorette thing was a lot,” Tyler said. “Having two Bachelors would be the same thing. I think they should stick to one.”

Bachelor in Paradise airs on Mondays and Tuesdays at 8 p.m. on ABC and is available to stream on Hulu. Here’s how to watch it for free.

For more about The Bachelor franchise, read Chad Kultgen and Lizzy Pace’s book, How to Win The Bachelor: The Secret to Finding Love and Fame on America’s Favorite Reality Show. Written by the hosts of the top-rated “Game of Roses” podcast, How to Win The Bachelor “uncover the ins and outs of the phenomenon that has become Bachelor Nation,” as well as dives into the strategies used by dozens of contestants to have the best limo exit on Night One, score the coveted First Impression Rose and avoid being labeled as a villain. The book, which is described as the “ultimate must-read” for any Bachelor Nation member, also gives a deeper look into the steps and approaches used by contestants to stick around each week and, eventually, make it to the Final Rose Ceremony.

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